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>> so mail carrier ron lynch put matthew's story up on facebook. >> i've heard from the u.k., from australia, from india. >> wow. the books just keep pouring in. every day. matthew's going to read every one of them and share them with other kids who need them. >> that's a great story. thanks john. great to have you. >> time now for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> happy friday. the best day of the week, don't you think? have a great weekend. "newsroom" starts now. good morning. happy friday. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me this morning. hillary clinton and jeb bush taking turns on the very same stage this morning. it's clinton's turn now.
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she's reaching out to black voters by addressing the national urban league in fort lauderdale, florida. let's take a look. >> asking ourselves, what more can i do in my life to counter hate and injustice? how can i make our country a better, fairer place? let me be clear. i think all of us need to do that kind of introspection. but those of us who have not experienced systemic racial inequities, we have an extra obligation. we need to do a better job of listening when people talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day. we need to practice humility. rather than assume that our experiences are everyone's
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experiences. [ applause ] and, yes, we need to try as best we can to walk in one another's shoes, to imagine what it would be like to sit our son down and have "the talk." or if people followed us around stores or locked their car doors when we walked past. that empathy, that's what makes it possible for people from every background, every race, every religion to come together as one nation. that's the kind of generosity of spirit that makes a country like america endure. and given what we've seen and experienced over the last two
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years, this is an urgent call for people to search their own hearts and minds. >> we're going step away from this speech by hillary clinton before the urban league in florida. let's talk about what she had to say with washington correspondent. >> i'm shocked. this brand new everyone thetic hillary clinton seems to have actually taken hold. the importance of empathy and connecting that to policy, i think sub ststantively it's goo. but she really seems to be connecting with the audience. >> well, it's interesting that jeb bush will soon appear on the same stage. i think there's a speaker in between the two. there was this controversy over black lives matter. hillary clinton said black lives do matter. then the republican side came
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out in the form of jeb bush who recollects sa-- who said all lis matter. i just want to play you what jeb bush had to say about that. >> we're so uptight and so political correct now you apologize for saying lives matter. life is precious. it's a gift from god. i mean, i frankly think that it's one of the most important values that we have. i know in the political context, it's a slogan, i guess. and should he have apologized? no. >> so, jeff, when jeb bush takes the stage, do you think he'll bring that up? >> well, carol, it's going to be interesting to watch. i mean, the full context of that is -- i mean, he says that, yes, black lives matter, but also white lives matter and all lives matter. this has been something that has tripped up a lot of candidateca.
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and hillary clinton said, yes, black lives do matter. but it was just a few weeks before that in st. louis when she came under some criticism herself for saying all lives matter. and some people in the black lives matter movement said she was not being sensitive enough. she has retooled a bit. the whole slogan has taken on such an important meaning, an important feeling in just what's happening. >> let me interrupt you on that point because she just mentioned black lives matter. >> a growing number of americans are realizing what many of you have been saying for a long time. we can't go on like this. we are better than this. things must change. now, it's up to us to build on that momentum. and we all have to do our part. but those of us who strive to lead have a special
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responsibility. i'm very pleased that many presidential candidates will be here today to address you. it is a signal that the work you've been doing, laboring in the vineyards for decade, is getting the political attention it deserves. but the real test of a candidate's commitment is not whether we come to speak at your national conference, as important as that is. it's whether we're still around after the cameras are gone and the votes are counted. [ applause ] it's whether our positions live up to our rhetoric. too often we see a mismatch between what some candidates say in venues like this and what they actually do when they're elected. i don't think you can credibly say that everyone has a right to rise and then say you're for
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phasing out medicare or for repealing obamacare. people can't rise if they can't afford healthcare. they can't rise if the minimum wage is too low to live on. they can't rise if their governor makes it harder for them to get a college education. you cannot seriously talk about the right to rise and support laws that deny the right to vote. [ applause ] so, yes, what people say matters, but what they do matters more. >> step away once again. jeff, that was an obvious slam on jeb bush, right? >> no question about it. right to rise is the name of his supportive group, his political action committee. and he talks often about the right to rise. what secretary clinton is doing right now in front of this audience in florida where jeb bush will be appearing within
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the hour is saying this audience should pay attention to the policies behind these slogans. it is an indirect shot because she didn't mention him by name at the policies that jeb bush and other republicans are putting forward. the important political point is this, hillary clinton is trying to court black voters across the country. of course they overwhelmingly vote in high numbers towards democrats. but her challenge is to get as high of numbers as they did for president obama. she needs a very, very, very high percentage of the black vote. and it's an open question whether some of the black vote is open to republicans right now. this is an interesting subset of what's going on today at this confidence. >> i'm curious on how you think jeb bush is going to be received today. >> he's always going to be
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received politely. secretary clinton wants to end her speech on such a high note. she wants jeb to be the guy who has to follow a bruce springsteen drum solo. jeb bush has a huge mountain to climb with african american voters. so far he hasn't done that good a job. his comments about black lives matter, it's not just a slogan. it is actually a political movement that people are involved in. that's going to matter for republicans and democrats next year. >> we'll see what happens when he stakes the stage. thanks to both of you. ♪
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new details in the hunt for missing malaysia airlines 370. malaysia now confirms this piece of debris belongs to a boeing triple 7. investigators trying to figure
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out if this wreckage could be the first clue to solving one of the biggest mysteries in aviation history. here's why investigators believe this could be the real thing. this component number found on the object matches the schematic for a boeing triple 7. in the meantime, u.s. intelligence reveals someone deliberately changed the flight's course. and if this search hasn't broken tough enough, volcanic eruptions and cyclones hamper efforts to find more debris. good morning. >> reporter: morning, carol. well, as you said, as if this wasn't complicated enough, they're now having to deal with two cyclone warnings and operation to evacuate the slopes of the volcanic crater here,
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which is why time really is of the essence in getting this debris out. we understand from french prosecutors that the debris will be leaving on a flight to paris this evening. it's going to be taken just outside of toulouse in the south of france. the lab there, this is the same lab that was instrumental in the investigation into that 2009 air france crash. they feel pretty confident they have what they need to finally start giving the families some answers. we will of course let you know as soon as we know that the debris has left reunion. >> has anyone found any more wreckage, any more debris? >> reporter: they are looking very carefully. we've been hearing the police search helicopters flying overheard most of today. the theory that investigators are working on is that if this is mh370, then there is a
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counter current that will have been responsible for bringing these two loads of debris, the one that came in on wednesday, which is the plane's segment and the other is segment which they are making part of this investigation, but that looks to be more like a remnant of luggage. they believe that the current that brought it here will give them a sense of how broad this search needs to be. it's really moving away from that original epicenter south of australia. so they are looking very, very closely and trying to get a sense of anything that's washing up on shore. so far nothing has come here yet. as we told you u.s. intelligence suggests flight 370 was deliberately steered off course by someone inside the cockpit. findings are based on available evidence, including satellite information. it's based on what happened after the pilot signed off.
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those would be the final words from inside the cockpit before 370 vanished. it is fortunaimportant to point investigators never found any evidence that either of the pilots are responsible for the plane's disappearance. let's bring in renee marsh to parse this out. good morning. >> good morning, carol. sources are telling cnn that this was an assessment by u.s. intelligence agencies. they came to the conclusion that someone in the cockpit of mh370 deliberately directed the aircraft's movements before it disappeared. this assessment is based on satellite as well as other available evidence. we know that analysts looked at the multiple course changes that the aircraft made after it deviated from its scheduled course. in march of 2014 it left cal la
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lum pu eventually going towards the south indian ocean. now, this assessment was done for internal u.s. government purposes. and we should mention it is totally separate from the investigation being led by malaysian authorities. investigators found no proof of wrongdoing by the airplane's crew. in speaking with some of any sources within aviation, they say, look, it is quite possible when you look at that flight path that of course someone may have deliberately set the path. but they make the point that just because someone deliberately set the path doesn't mean there is necessarily malicious intent. >> thanks so much. let's talk about all of this with our panel of experts.
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joining me now cnn aviation analyst richard quest and miles o'brien. he's a pilot and cnn aviation analyst. welcome to all of you. peter, i want to start with you. this piece of debris is on its way to toulouse, france. what will happen once it gets there? >> well, they're going to look at it very carefully. and then they're going to dismantle it. take it apart, look into the interior of the flaperon and check registration numbers that will be on in of the internal pieces. when a plane is manufactured, every piece of that plane has a pedigree that can be checked. we've checked back on pieces at the ntsb that are 30 years old to manufacturing procedures to see whether there was a flaw in that. so this final identification
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will take place very quickly once it's in toulouse. >> and as investigators look at this piece of debris, they're going to notice the jagged edges on one side and it's smooth on another. what might that tell them? >> it will tell them a considerable amount about how they became disengaged from the aircraft. the leading edge has virtually nothing on it at all. whereas the trailing edge is completely jagged, which suggests that it was yanked off in some way as it went into the water, possibly because it was deflected downward at that moment. so they'll learn a lot about the mechanisms of what happened to it. but they won't know why. that's not to denigrate that information, because it helps build the picture. at the moment, frankly they've got so little information, that any is a really good start. >> that's true.
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miles, some observers are painting a big picture from a very small piece of evidence, right? they say because it's jagged on one side and smooth on the other, that's proof it was attached to the plane in the air and possibly came off while the plane was still flying. >> that is what i'm hearing from people who are trained to look at this kind of damage. the final word will come from toulouse. if indeed it was still attached to the wing when it hit the water, you would likely expect to see some damage at the front of that device as it became disengaged from a water impact. is it possible this was a high speed dive and this is one of the pieces that might have come off as it was over stressed in the airstream? that does say a couple of things about what might have been going on in that aircraft. and it also helps refine the search a little bit. >> so if that flaperon was still
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attached and came off in the air, what does that tell you about how the plane eventually crashed? >> well, what it would simply confirm is the flaperon would show what they call depression damage if it was still attached to the aircraft. i think both richard and miles are correct. i think this piece separated at some point in the final moments of flight and floated down by itself, because it simply doesn't show the kind of damage that it should have had it been still attached to the plane. >> richard, you want to add to that? just remind people what the flaperon does? >> it's literally flaps up and flaps down. it has two functions. one is to help the plane in the bankrolling left or right. and the second is to give it extra lift. we know of course -- well, we don't know. the best thinking is the plane
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ran out of fuel. and the test, of course, is how did it leave the air at that particular moment. so the numerous studies have been done about what happens when a plane does leave the air with fuel exhaustion. the traditional view is it doesn't go straight nose down. the traditional view is it glides and then goes into a bank and then spirals down. but we just don't know. >> well, you never know what this little piece of debris can tell us. evan perez has been reporting that investigators now think this plane was deliberately flown off course. do you believe that? >> yes, i do believe it was deliberate, carol. richard will quibble with me. but basically up to the point where they said "good night malaysia" and all of a sudden everything went silent, all the communication, all the radar tracking capability,
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instantaneously virtually went silent. that supports right there some sort of catastrophic event on the aircraft, something akin to a raging fire or even an explosion. so then you see the turn to the left. that is consistent with a crew that has a really big problem and they want to get back to land as quickly as possible. where i diverge from those who suggest a mechanical problem only is the right turn at panang. if something catastrophic happened right there at the left turn, how did all that happen? i don't know who did it or why, but i do know a human being was involved in this event. >> we'll have to leave it there. thanks so all of you.
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i appreciate it. still to come, the world wide protest over the killing of that beloved african lion is taking a new turn. could that dentist be extradited to zimbabwe? flonase allergy relief nasal spray outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance, flonase controls six. so you are greater than your allergies. flonase. six is greater than one. this changes everything.
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the white house will now review a public petition to extra did palmer. that petition has well over 100,000 signatures. david mckenzie is live in johannesburg africa with more on this. >> it's extraordinary this global koout cry about this killing of this iconic lion. possible leg the zimbabwe official said they had already began these proceedings, calling this an orchestrated poaching event. if the u.s. does not extradite dr. palmer -- proceedings can take a long time. they are very tricky. but that petition to the white house is piling more pressure on the obama administration to reply in this case, the case that has already sparked the
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world's attention. >> nobody know where is this dentist is, although he has vowed to cooperate. apparently he has gone into hiding. >> it's very hard to cooperate when effectively officials can't reach you. certainly there have been officials in the u.s. saying they want to talk to dr. palmer. at this stage all he's done is put out that statement saying that he did kill this lion, but he didn't know it was illegal and he depended on the expertise of his local guides. those guides could face ten years in prison. we're watching very closely the fate of the cubs. this lion had a at least a dozen cubs. generally what happens when the prima prima primary male is killed, the other lions will come in and kill these cubs.
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of course it would just add to the weight of outrage against dr. palmer. >> they're so adorable. you're right about that. it would add to the outrage. we turn now to what could be a major development in the fight against the ebola virus. a world health official is now calling a newly-developed vaccine highly effective. elizabeth cohen joins me now to tell us about this vaccine. >> caller: hi, carol. this is an exciting development in this field. what the world health organization and others did is they took 4,000 people in west africa who had contact with someone who had ebola or contact with a contact of someone who had ebola. in other words, quite likely to get ebola. and when they gave this vaccine pretty quickly and then they waited ten days for it to kick in, it was 100% effective against ebola. none of the people in that category got ebola. and you would have certainly
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expects at least some of them to get it. a very exciting development. this study is ongoing. all of this work was done very quickly. in 11 months they did all of this research that usually would take a decade or more. still to come in the "newsroom," new body cam video out of cincinnati. what this white officer said moments after killing an unarmed black man. elevate each moment.porto hit every mark. thread every needle. turn every ride into a thrill ride. come in to the lexus golden opportunity sales event, where you'll find some of the best offers of the year on our most exhilarating models. lease the 2015 rc 350 for $449 a month for 36 months and will make your first month's payment. see your lexus dealer. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health?
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new video in the case of a white officer who gunned down an unarmed black man. footage from a third camera is bringing us another angle. >> that guy was going to run me over. >> are you okay? >> i'm good. [ bleep ].
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>> gunshot wound to the head. >> what, did he pull on you? >> we've got medical rolling. who was injured? >> took off on me. i discharged one round, shot the male in the head. stay back. stay back! >> tensing pleaded not guilty and is now free on bond. his next court date is a few weeks away. jean casarez spoke with his attorney. goodmorning. >> reporter: the attorney for mr. tensing says that he's getting phone calls from all over the country, from police officers, from university professors, from experts in body cams and they are studying this video apparently as it is run on television. he did tell me in regard to some of the claims we're hearing that his client made, one question i
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had was we hear he put his hand inside the car. why did he do that? he says that his client saw sam dubose actually put the key in the ignition and turn it on and put the car in drive. at this point his client decided i'm going to try and get the keys out of the ignition and so he put his hand in the car attempting to do that and that's when the hand began to get tangled. i also asked him about the dragging, because we don't see that on the video. he said that there is a very small portion of five seconds when his client is on the ground, not where the car and the shot took place, but extended outward down the street a little bit. he calls it an oil stain. he claims that he didn't get down there just by walking, that he was dragged down there. listen to the attorney in his own words describe that.
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>> officer's video clearly shows officer tensing laying in the street some distance from where mr. dubose's car was initially stopped. he didn't crawl up there. he didn't walk up there and fall down. somehow he got up there. he says he was dragged and i think that's accurate. >> reporter: now, of course, the prosecuting attorney in his press conference said that's just an excuse as far as tensing saying that he was dragged, that he is not telling the truth. if he fell down, he fell down on his own accord. it was yesterday at 6:30 when officer tensing actually made bond, $100,000 cash posted. he was on suicide watch while he was inside the jail. and we knew beforehand he was going to be in protective custody in that jail before he was released.
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>> jean casarez reporting live from cincinnati. thank you so much. tensing's lawyer isn't the only one talking. the family of samuel dubose is also speaking out. the victim's sister says she doesn't see what the officer claims and is now offering this challenge to tensing's attorney. >> there's not a camera angle that's not going to show sam not putting his hands up and saying what are you doing? i would ask his attorney to go get those angles and show me the angles that show where my brother did not basically beg for his life. >> with me now is cincinnati police chief jeffrey blackwell. thank you so much for being with me this morning. i appreciate it. the prosecutor says tensing should never have been a police officer. do you agree? >> you know, i haven't had a
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chance to delve into his background file. it's not appropriate for me to comment on his suitability at being a police officer. what i will say, though, is that it's clear -- and i think the prosecutor made the right call -- that he had egregious error in judgment and that his conduct was way out of line from what you would expect of a professional police officer. >> as you were watching these videotapes from various body cameras, were you horrified? what went through your mind? >> yes, i was. when i viewed the tape, i was just extremely disappointed at what i witnessed on that body camera tape. i think the nation is. certainly our city is. i think the prosecutor did the right thing. our agency responded in a timely fashion. we were thorough, yet we got it done in a very quick fashion, because the vi vitality of our
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city depends on our ability to tell the truth. >> did you see any evidence that this police officer was being dragged by that car? >> none whatsoever in my mind. and i know there's talk of a second view with a different body camera that may show something other than the first one did. i'm not buying that. i'm not seeing that. and my 30 years of experience just won't let my process that. >> tensing belonged to the university of cincinnati police force. i just wondered about their training. is their training different from those who serve on your force? >> absolutely. we have one of the best trained agencies in the world. and i don't know what their training is per se exactly. but i do know it's not to the level of my agency here. another thing is important to talk about. it's not just the training, but it's the temperament that you police with. it's your style.
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it's your platform. it's what you hope to accomplish when you police a community. we do things a little different here. we believe in community engagement equally as much as we do with law enforcement. we believe in partnerships and collaboration. i'm not sure any other agency does that around here the way that we do. our concerns are more with that than his lack of training. >> do you think that university police ought to carry guns? >> well, you know, our city is very urban. university of cincinnati sits in a very urban part of the community. so i haven't really developed an opinion one way or another on whether or not campus police officers should be armed. we're going to talk about that. the president of the university and i and our city leaders here are going to be discussing how we move forward and how we police the yufuniversity of cincinnati community in the coming days. >> in my mind this university police officer was pulling a guy
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over for not displaying a front license plate which seems to have nothing to do with the university safety. i was a little confused about that. >> i am confused about that as well, carol. when officers fish like that -- and let's get one thing clear first. no front tag is a legal violation. but he was several blocks off of campus in one of our communities that border the university. clearly he was fishing for a traffic violation or something bigger which led unfortunately to the tragic death of sam dubose. had he been on campus making sure the students were safe, maybe this doesn't happen. >> and chief, just a final question. do you think mr. dubose was pulled over because he was african american? >> i don't have any basis to make that judgment. i don't have any indication there was some racial profiling involved. so i won't go there. but i think the record speaks for itself, that it was a stop
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for no front tag that quickly digressed into a use of deadly force situation that by all accounts was completely and wholly inappropriate. >> chief jeffrey blackwell, always a pleasure. thank you so much for being with me this morning. still to come, we've got newly released video of the lafayette theater gun plan plus the riveting 911 calls. wait, i can freeze my account. [touch tone] introducing freeze it, from discover. it allows you to prevent new purchases on your account in seconds if your card is misplaced. not here... ♪ and once you find your card,
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the panic and fear from last week's deadly shooting inside that movie theater in lafayette, louisiana, are revealed in newly released evidence. for the first time chilling surveillance video shows the gunman calmly entering the theater and moments later 911 calls capture the horrifying after math. ed lavandera has more for you this morning. >> good morning. >> good morning, carol.
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all these calls and radio traffic and the surveillance video released by authorities there in lafayette, and as you mentioned, it captures the horrifying moments when this shooting erupted. chilling new surveillance video shows john russell houser buying his movie ticket, calmly walking past a concession stand, and right down the hall, straight into theater 14. less than 15 minutes into the movie, houser pulls out a .40 caliber handgun and fires off at least 13 rounds. these are the frantic 911 calls that began pouring in. >> there's a shooting. >> he shot right at people. >> there's still people inside, still people inside. >> reporter: 34rpolice race to scene. >> we need everybody over here. >> reporter: police say the shooter initially tried to escape by blending into the fleeing crowd. >> they say he's inside. we have an active shooter here. >> reporter: the presence of law enforcement caused him to turn the gun on himself according to
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officials but not before killing these two women and injuring nine more. >> suspect is down! suspect is down! we have several more victims inside with zbun shot wounds. >> reporter: thursday night in lafayette. ♪ amazing grace >> reporter: hundreds attend a celebration in remembrance of the two victims one week after their tragic deaths. >> just want to say thank you for everyone involved in finding my daughter on that horrible day. >> reporter: the community-wide event titled unite, honor, heal. ♪ god's grace will lead me home ♪ >> reporter: and, carol, of course, these new evidence, these recordings don't really do much to answer the main question that so many people have, why would that man who has been described as a drifter come from alabama, pick this theater in that city? that is a question that still remains unanswered, carol.
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>> ed lavandera reporting live for us this morning. thank you. still to come in the "newsroom," it is hillary clinton versus "the new york times." her campaign is taking on the paper for what it calls egregious errors. we'll talk about that next. the lincoln summer the invitation is on.ere. get exceptional offers on the mkz sedan... the luxury small utility mkc ...the iconic navigator. and get a first look at the entirely new 2016 mid-size utility lincoln mkx. your choice of mkc, mkz gas or hybrid for $369 a month with zero due at signing.
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hillary clinton's campaign is taking on "the new york times." they accuse the paper of egregious errors in a story published a week ago about the clinton e-mail probe, and now in a highly unusual move, the clinton team is formally protesting the story. cnn's senior media correspondent brian stelter joins us now with more. some people might be surprised that hillary clinton is picking on what some consider the most liberal newspaper in america. >> yeah, "the times" has been on the hillary beat longer than anybody else. they have reporters assigned to her campaign years before it was a campaign. "the times" is now taking a lot of heat from the clinton
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campaign. this article came out a week ago. it referred to a criminal inquiry that was being requested into her private e-mail server. now, the word criminal was then removed. the story was revised, the story was corrected but it was revised awfully late. it took a long 2350itime for "t times" to add a correction. the clinton campaign is writing to the executive editor complaining in a 2,000-word letter. they say they wanted that letter published in "the times." that wasn't going to happen, let's be realistic. >> what do they say in 2,000 words? >> they say it was egregious behavior by "the times." they abandoned journalistic principles and they didn't give the campaign enough time to comment. they trusted the wrong sources, the reporters didn't call the campaign with enough heads up, enough notice ahead of time, and they say once they realized there were mistakes, the paper didn't correct them fast enough. basically what the clinton gl campaign is doing is putting all journalists on notice. we're watching, taking this seriously, if you come at us
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with negative stories, we'll come back at you. if you write about this private e-mail server, you better get your facts straight. it's an unusual move. i haven't seen any campaign go this aggressively at a news outlet like "the new york times." >> "the new york times" is clearly wrong, right? >> "the times" did screw up here, they acknowledged that. >> but going after the media is a well-worn political kind of thing to do, right? >> right. it's probably the oldest trick in the book but it does sometimes work. it does sometimes create more pressure. sometimes we call it working the refs. if the journalists are the referees in this case. i think what we're seeing here is a very aggressive stance by the clinton campaign trying to send a message they are paying close attention, that they feel there's this assumption by some journalists that the clinton campaign is sleazy, that it's corrupt in some way. we hear donald trump using the word criminal all the time referring to the clinton campaign. this campaign is saying it is not going to stand for it. it's going to be aggressive and
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if you make a mistake, they are going to write a 2,000-word letter to you and then print it. this is the world we live in now. if you write a letter to "the times" and they don't publish it, you will publish it yourself on your own website. >> brian, thanks so much. i appreciate it. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" after a break. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me this morning. we'll begin with the missing malaysia airlines flight 370. a piece of debris found on a remote island has just been loaded for transport. the wreckage, which was discovered near madagascar, will be sent to paris. it will then be taken to southern france for identification. here is why investigators believe this could be the real thing. this component number found on the object matches the schematic for a 777, something malaysia has now confirmed.
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also new this morning, french investigators telling cnn authorities will be able to i.d. the object quickly, even more chilling, a source telling cnn engineers should be able to determine if the plane exploded in the air or if it hit the water in one piece. we're covering this story from all angles. cnn's senior international correspondent is on reunion island. i'm also joined by cnn aviation correspondent richard quest. he's been following all of this since the very beginning, but set the scene for us first. >> reporter: well, our teams on the ground witnessed it being loaded into the crate, and you got a sense of the delicacy of this operation purely from seeing the way it was wrapped, the surrounding escort, a large number of police around that crate at all times while it was sealed up. the wing segment itself was wrapped very, very carefully
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because everything on that wing, including any of the gradations, any of the wear and tear on that wing, it's going to be crucial in identifying exactly what happened. the center just outside of toulouse that specializes in that. these are the same people that were involved in the air france 2009 investigation and they have highly powerful electron microscopes that will be looking at every detail, not just of the wing but also of the plant life, the sea life, the barnacles. they're trying to keep the barnacles alive because the tissue of the barnacles is going to reflect the metal deposits that were in the water where this debris first turned up, and that will give them a broader sense of that pattern and will help them. once they establish the pattern of the currents that brought it here, they can start thinking about broadening out that search scene. they need to be looking at madagascar, do they need to be looking closer to southeastern coast of africa? all of that they're hoping to discover over the next 24 to 48
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hours after this arrives in france on saturday morning, carol. >> and nima, i know people are trying to find more debris on the island but there are complications, as in an erupting volcano? >> reporter: this isn't easy on any level. they have two cyclone warnings and dealing with an evacuation because the volcano here on the island has begun to erupt. they've moved people from that crater. in addition to all the difficulties of it being a tiny island in the middle of the indian otcean and trying to get the transport, trying to get the person kne personnel here. but they are so happy to feel that in any way they can they're helping to finally get some answers to those families, carol. >> i want to turn now to richard
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quest. so once this flaperon arrives in toulouse, france, how long might it take? >> i would imagine a couple days. they're going to want to be absolutely certain. we already know it's from a 777. that's where it comes from on the plane. that's the flaperon. it's the right side. it goes up and down and helps the aircraft in its bank and roll and with extra lift when the plane is flying at slow speeds. i would think what they're going to be looking for -- what they're looking for is obviously first and foremost to identify it as a piece of mh-370, but very soon thereafter what can you learn? what secrets will it reveal? nima gave us some interesting ideas of what the oceanographers can tell from the barnacles, but what the engineers will be looking at is where is the compression? where is the dent? where is the damage? where is the ripping?
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where's the tensions and the pulls? from that they will be able to tell a lot about how it entered the water. >> as far as releasing information, who will be in charge of that? >> well, that's an interesting one. all right. so it was found in reunion, which is french territory. therefore, it's the bea, which is based in paris and they have an excellent, excellent record of dealing with these matters. but the investigation is being held under the auspices of the dca in malaysia, and, of course, the search is being conducted by the atsb in australia. >> wow. >> long answer, short result. between the bea and -- between the french and the malaysians, they will determine when it's the right time to release it. it will -- the french will not release this without the malaysians saying okay. >> and at one point i heard the united states wanted to look at this flaperon. is the united states involved?
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>> absolutely. >> okay. >> people who are accredited to , the state of register, the state of manufacture, that's the united states, the state of engines, that's the uk for the rolls royce engines. they're all going to be involved and absolutely the ntsb will want to see this because they will have the specialist knowledge with boeing to interpret what the tests may need to be done. >> in looking at this object from what you've othbserved fro the video. some people say because one side has a jagged air it's obvious it came off in the air and was being deployed in the last moments. >> if you freeze the picture you can see what i'm talking about. this is the edge we're talking about. this is the bit that would connect to the plane. that's where it connects to the plane.
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so the plane is flying this way and that's connected to the plane. now, there's very little damage there, you can see. very little damage. if the plane had crashed into something, you would have expected that to be crumpled and crushed because this would have gone into the rest of the wing but you see nothing there. it's not pristine, but what you do see is lots of damage around here and if you roll the video again you will see at the back end of that you will see all that tearing and ripping and that suggests this bit here, you see, all of this, there's the barnacles and things like, that but you can also see a lot of damage here, and that's the bit that people are saying in the air flow or as it went into the water, we don't know, but that's where the damage bit came when this bit left the aircraft. >> but you know u.s. investigators say that they believe that the plane was deliberately flown you a course, right? so -- >> deliberately is a neutral
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word. let's be clear about this. deliberately is a neutral word for these purposes. >> could the damage to that flaperon prove their theory? >> no, absolutely nop.i hate to say this to you because the families want answers. the families are desperate for answers, but there is no connection between this at the moment and being able to say what happened in the cockpit, none. >> all right. richard quest, thanks so much for stopping by. we appreciate it. one expert actually predicted a year ago that the wreckage from that missing flight could wind up on reunion island. she says the discovery of the flaperon fits his models that map the possible path of 370 debris. he is a professor of coastal oceanography at the university of western australia. he joins me now. welcome, sir. thank you so much for being here. >> you're welcome. >> so you were not surprised that debris showed up on reunion island, why?
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>> well, i think any oceanographer would not be surprised because that's the prevailing current patterns in the indian ocean. there would be taking any debris from the east to the west across the indian ocean. so this is not really a surprising result except that we don't know how long it actually takes, but we managed to predict that the timing was correct. >> do you think they'll find more debris on reunion island? >> not necessarily on reunion island. the debris is spread over a pretty large area, so it could be not only reunion island, it could be around madagascar, that part of the world and the ocean is where you would expect to find more debris, but on the other hand there is also our models say that, you know, the
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debris could have also ended up in some parts of australia. so there is a very large area that it may end up in. >> so people should be scouring the shores of eastern africa and madagascar? >> not eastern africa. basically after madagascar, the currents will go southwards towards the southern ocean, maybe towards south africa. >> so are -- this is 2,000 miles from where they're searching for the plane. should they still be searching in that part of the indian ocean? >> yeah, because this is -- the results that we -- is consistent of debris originated from the area that they're searching. so by finding this piece of debris, it does not actually change anything in terms of searching for the wreckage in the bottom of the ocean that they're surveying because this
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only gives some confidence that they're actually searching in the right area. >> we see the barnacles on that flaperon. do they tell you anything just at first glance? >> i'm a physical oceanographer, but one of the things that we have to also remember is that we actually don't know when those barnacles attached themselves into that piece of debris, whether, you know, it might have been in the water for some time before it was colonized, so i have to be a little bit careful in terms of finding out. we could tell how long, a minimum time it has been in the water but not really exactly how long. >> how about where the barnacles attach themselves? does that tell you anything? >> no. the barnacles basically attach themselves where they can grab hold of something. >> all right. thank you so much for being with me this morning. i appreciate it. still to come in the "newsroom," donald trump may be at the british open, but he's
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bombastic presidential candidate donald trump is in scotland for the women's british open. it was meant to be a business trip but where trump goes, the campaign follows. just a short time ago he took some time out to talk foreign policy and more with max foster who joins us live from
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turnberry. whatever you say, max. >> reporter: carol, he's quite worried about america's place in the world and how, you know, obama, america doesn't get on with russia and china. that's driving russia and china together forming a separate axis of power which is the greatest threat to world peace in his opinion. he wants to change that. he wants to work more closely with russia and china, but what i wanted to know is how he was going to make that happen, how, for example, was he going to deal with the issue of crimea which is the big issue in international diplomacy when it comes to russia right now. so i asked him a few of the questions around that to get some detail on his foreign policy. >> putin has no respect for president obama. he will respect me, that i tell you. >> reporter: on that basis what do you do with crimea, for example? >> let me explain. first of all, this is europe's problem much more so than ours, okay? and europe isn't complaining as
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much as we are, but this is more of a europe problem and when europe comes to us and says we want your help, but they're not really doing that. they're dealing with russia, they're taking in the gas, taking in the oil. they're not really doing that, and, you know, we're making a big deal out of it, but why isn't germany leading this one? you know, germany is a very rich, very powerful nation. why aren't they dealing on it more so? everything the united states -- we're like the policemen of the world. >> reporter: big closer to home, carol, of course, the issue of illegal immigrants coming across the southern border of the united states. it's an issue that keeps coming up. he faced a lot of questions around that actually from scottish journalists here. it's a story that breaks out from the trump campaign internationally. i also asked him about that. >> mexico is sending -- people are coming through the border from all over the world, they're coming through the border. we have a porous border. we have a border where you can walk right into the country, and you can't do that. to have a country, you have to
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have a strong border. you have to have a really strong border and this has to stop. what's going on now has to stop. >> reporter: who will build the wall and how -- >> i will build the wall and mexico is going to pay for it and they will be happy to pay for it because mexico is making so much money from the united states that that's going to be peanuts, and all these other characters say they won't pay, they won't pay because they don't know the first thing about how to negotiate. trust me, mexico will pay for it. >> reporter: you can't blame his straight talking, can you, carol? it was interesting, this was meant to be a business trip to scotland. feels like another step in his campaign tour though. >> is he wearing that hat for the duration of the tournament? >> reporter: pretty much. when he's trying to go on a business tour and he's emblazoning his palestinian campaign slae gone on his cap, he sort of asks people really to prumpt him for questions. >> and i'm glad you did, max foster. thanks so much. max foster reporting live. so let's talk about trump and the substance and what he said or lack thereof.
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and i'm joined by jeff zeleny, cnn washington correspondent and javier polamolas. jeff, actually, i thought his comments on crimea, i mean it is more of a european problem than it is a united states problem, right? he's correct in that regard. >> sure it is, but, i mean, i think even saying that -- it's interesting to see his bluster on a world stage and it's interesting to say -- or to watch how he would say that putin would respect him, but even though it's more of a european problem, it's still a u.s. problem. it's still something that many republicans have criticized president obama for not being strong enough against putin, but, kaurcarol, the thing that struck me was his insistent without any explanation that mexico would pay for the wall. he said other politicians don't believe him because they don't know how to negotiate. i don't see what incentive
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mexico would have to pay for the wall. it's easy to say but it seems very difficult to actually pull off if he actually would become president but that's probably getting ahead of ourselves. >> javier, donald trump says mexico is making so much money off us, it can afford to pay for that wall. >> you know, i can't imagine that mexico would pay for that wall, carol. i think one of the things that donald conveniently forgets to mention is that for decades mexico was the second largest trading partner to the united states, second only to canada. it was recently surpassed by china, but still continues to be an important ally and trading partner, now the third largest trading partner to the united states, and there's an important commercial relationship that exists between both these nations. i'd like for him to talk about that from time to time as well since he's such a businessman. >> well, jeff, he did -- trump did get a little more into his immigration policy besides building the wall. he told dana bash that the illegal immigrants living here
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now he would make them all leave the country and then he would let only the good ones come back in. do i have that right? >> you have it right. i'm just not sure how that works. i mean, the practicality of deporting or removing, you know, 11 million or more people from the country has been something that really no one has figured out how to do or never mind the fact if it's a good idea or not. but conservatives, carol, are beginning to sort of fly speck his immigration answers to dana bash. finally got a little bit of specifics, and this is something that i think is the beginning of sort of a second look at the trump campaign. when you look at the substance of it, some republicans are beginning to sort of question exactly where he stands on this. so as we head into the debate next week, look for other rivals to press him on specifics here and exactly how he would accomplish any of what he's
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actually saying. >> and javier, i can hear donald trump prefacing every remark on immigration with hispanics love me. the hispanics love me. do they? >> no, they don't, carol. and by the way, the reality of it is the united states hispanic chamber of commerce collaborated with the george w. bush institute on a study that found that net immigration between the united states and mexico was practically zero over a ten-year period of time, so this notion that we are being inundated by immigrants, the reality of it is there are more people leaving the united states going to mexico than there are people leaving mexico coming to the u.s. again, i'm not sure where donald is getting his information, but it's absolutely inaccurate. >> i just -- i'm just curious, are donald trump's comments hurting the rest of the republican party when it comes to hispanic/latino support? >> you know, i got to believe they are. you've got some phenomenal
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candidates like jeb bush, marco rubio, scott walker and others. certainly jeb bush understands the hispanic community. he is creating very -- a strong division between the entire party and the hispanic community. he has been very hurtful, and i think -- i have got to believe that that's going to show up during the election. it's going to show up in the polls. i have got to believe that it will. >> okay. and just we're watching this event run by the urban league in ft. lauderdale, florida. hillary clinton took to the stage to talk about issues that affected the african-american community. bernie sanders just got off stage. can you bring us up to date on what hillary clinton said? she was quite fiery. >> she was. she's using this forum, it's really the first one of the campaign where she is addressing the same audience that jeb bush will be addressing here momentarily, and she went after him quite directly using the name of his super pac which she calls it the right to rise.
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she said that there is no right to rise for african-american voters and others if you don't support the minimum wage. there is no right to rise if you don't support voting rights. so i think she is decided to use this as a forum to go after who may be the leading republican likely nominee even though donald trump is leading in the polls right now, most republicans believe jeb bush is actually in a good position here. she went after him for the first time directly on some of these things so we will see what his response is when he speaks shortly. >> yeah, he should speak -- and javier, i wanted to ask you because hillary clinton laid out her immigration plan. i know bernie sanders did, too. is there any favorite on the democrat side, democratic side, as far as hispanic support? >> well, certainly senator sanders who was with us yesterday for a 90-minute q & a did talk very candidly about his beliefs. with that said, he doesn't have the track record, he doesn't have the name recognition that secretary clinton has, but i do
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see bernie sanders continuing to close that gap. he has very aggressively engaged america's hispanic community, but clearly coming from a state that is 95% caucasian, and this is the first time he runs for the presidency. so he's a new entrant in the space but he's doing everything he can to close that gap. >> all right. thanks to you both. i appreciate it. still to come in the "newsroom," the outrage is growing over the killing of cecil the lion. now zimbabwe wants the united states to hand over that dentist who hunted him down. ♪
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to my right, that is jeb bush. he's now speaking before the urban league in ft. lauderdale, florida. earlier hillary clinton came out and spoke behind that very same podium and slammed jeb bush, not exactly by name but certainly slammed his policies. we're monitoring jeb bush's speech to see if he will answer hillary clinton's allegations and, of course, how he's also received by the urban league. we'll dip in again when it was warranted. the american dentist who hunted down cecil the lion has to worry about more than public scorn. zimbabwe's environment minister said today her country has started extradition proceedings for walter palmer. zimbabwe officials say he's guilty of well orchestrated and well resourced poaching. they're urging the united states to cooperate and it just might. the white house will now review a public petition to extradite palmer. it has well over 100,000 signatures fuelled in part by jimmy kimmel who choked up while
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he was talking about cecil the lion during his monologue. >> if you want to make this into a positive, you can -- sorry. okay. i'm good. make a donation and support the -- >> touched a lot of people. the problem is the dentist, mr. walter pam am walter palmer, has closed his dental office and gone into hiding. the u.s. fish and wildlife department wants the dentist to contact them. with me is mel robbins and johnny rodriguez, an animal rights activist in zimbabwe. welcome to both of you. >> morning. >> good morning. johnny, are you surprised zimbabwe is trying to extradite palmer? >> yeah, very surprised. >> why? >> the law hasn't been carried out to the full in so many
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years, and it's nice to see it actually doing the right thing for the right cause. >> mel, do you think that the united states will cooperate? >> you know, i actually think they're going to, and here is the reason why. when you think about extradition, it's really a diplomatic issue as much as it is a legal one. and so what you already have a the country saying we are going to initiate the process, and it goes through diplomatic channels first, so they will reach out to the office of international affairs through probably -- they'll reach out to the office of international affairs and then the office of international affairs will reach out to the attorney general and the federal authorities in the state of minnesota, and then they will seek a hearing with this dentist, and that's how the process starts, and, frankly, carol, if you have a country that we have a treaty with and we've had a treaty with zimbabwe since 1997, it was signed into law by bill clinton, as long as there are the same sort of
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crimes here that are punishable in the united states, our hands are kind of tied. i mean, it would be a slap in the face in terms of our relationship with zimbabwe -- >> but we don't have a great relationship with zimbabwe. >> but for us to basically say we're not going to extradite the dentist, we're going to protect him and we're 23409 goinot goin him to you, that would be a huge statement the united states would be making to that country, and they have grounds to extradite him. we have a treaty in place. this would be a punishable offense and i might add this dentist was convicted in 2006 for poaching a black bear illegally in wisconsin. he was also convicted of lying to the fish and game authorities. he's done it before. it's punishable here in the u.s. we have a treaty. i don't see how they wouldn't cooperate and extradite him. >> johnny, are you surprised by the emotional outpouring over the killing of this lion in the united states? >> i can understand the whole
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reason behind this is that the scourge has been going on for so long, and we've got a platform now to actually tell the world we need help and we need to change a lot of the rulings that they've got and the treaties where there's endangered animals which can be traded and hunted, and we tried to stop that bisort of saying let's preserve these animals. so, yes, i'm happy if justice does go ahead. i mean, the person is not guilty until they've gone to court and defended themselves. let's see what the circumstance is, but i do believe that the law was broken, and it is classified as a poaching, and a local guy if he hunts and he gets caught, he hasn't got a permit, he goes to jail for anything between 2 and 15 years. now, these guys lured a lion out
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of a national park into a safari area where there was no permit, no nothing, and all of a sudden they can do it. justice has to be seen to be done and let's stop this from ever happening again. so that people would realize they will be prosecuted. >> all right. i have to end it there. johnny rodriguez, mel robbins, thanks so much. i have to take our viewers back to ft. lauderdale, florida. jeb bush speaking before the urban league. let's listen to what he has to say. >> -- the fewer obstacles imposed by government, more people have the opportunity to achieve earned success. we gave more people the tools to move up in the world through adult education and workforce training. we expanded our community college system and made it more affordable for low-income families. florida in those years helped thousands more first-generation college students make it all the way to graduation. we didn't lose sight of the ones who had missed their chance at a
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better life or maybe even lost their way and landed in jail. in florida we didn't want to fill prison with nonviolent offenders, so we expanded drug courts. they started here in florida, and we expanded them all across the state and we created prevention programs. i took the view, as i would as president, that real justice in america has got to also include restorative justice. [ applause ] i opened the first faith-based prison in the united states and signed an executive order to promote the hiring of ex-offenders. in this country we shouldn't be writing people off, denying them a second chance at a life of meaning. many only ask for a chance to start again, to get back in the game and to do it right, and as a country, we should say yes whenever we can. [ applause ]
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we also went after the real enemy that afflicts our cities, the smugglers, the drug cartels, and the violent criminals that profit from the undoing of so many lives. we passed tough sentencing laws for gun crimes and ensured that dangerous people were kept off our streets. as a result of all of this, we brought violent crime in florida down to a 27-year low and drug abuse way down as well. social progress is always the story of widening the circle of opportunity. for that reason i gave the challenge of school reform everything i had as governor because if we fail at that responsibility, it's a bitter loss. i believe in the right to rise in this country and a child is not rising if he's not reading. [ applause ] when i took office, florida was down near the bottom in student achievement. almost half of all fourth graders were functionally i will literal and half of all high
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school kids never even graduated. so we overhauled the whole system, set clear standards, and brought out the best in our great teachers. we insisted on testing and accountability. we created the first statewide private school choice programs in america. we expanded high performing charter schools and we ended the insidious policy of social promotion in third grade, the practice of just passing unprepared kids along as if we didn't care because we did care and we should care. you don't show that by counting out anyone's child. you give them all a chance, and that's what we did in florida. >> all right. we're going to step away from this for just a minute because other presidential contenders did take the stage at the urban league. one of the hot button issues all of them talked about was the phrase black lives matter. of course, that phrase became controversial after martin o'malley said all lives matter and then had to apologize. so here is a mashup of how the
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candidates addressed this before the urban league earlier today. >> i have no desire to get rid of safety nets for people who need them. i have a strong desire, however, to provide a ladder to get people out of dependency so that they become part of the fabric of america. >> and the racial disparities you work hard every day to overcome go against everything i believe in and everything i want to help america achieve. >> but we are not there yet. every headline or video of official abuse, injustice, indifference, kill, or murder reminds us of how far we still have to go. every story reminds us that americans of color must endure a constant state of random vulnerability even when they're just driving to work. >> we must reform our criminal justice system, black lives do
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matter, and we must value black lives. >> all right. there you have a mashup of what was said before the urban league. let's head to washington and check in with jeff zeleny. you have been monitoring this whole forum. who got the biggest response? >> well, carol, i think jeb bush just a few moments before we went to him, he talked about how he did something when he was the governor of florida. he took down the confederate flag back when it was not necessarily a popular thing to do in tallahassee. that got a fairly big response from that audience and we heard jeb bush lay out what he did as governor of florida through education reform and other things, but, carol, i think one of the funniest lines, and we'll perhaps hear this over and over, jeb bush talked about the debate next week, the republican presidential debate. he said before this whole thing is over, we might need a doctor on stage, and then he said, that's where dr. ben carson comes in. so a little bit of a shout out to him. a little bit of humor from him today.
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the debris found on reunion island in the indian ocean has now been loaded onto crates. it's at the airport. it is expected to be sent to france for identification later today. investigators telling cnn authorities will be able to i.d. the object quickly to figure out whether it's the first clue from that vanished plane, mh-370. the source telling cnn engineers should be able to determine if the plane exploded in the air or if it hit the water in one piece. let's talk about this. with me now, james carlton, professor of marine sciences, i'm joined by les abend. welcome to you both. >> good morning. >> good morning. james, we've been talking a lot about the barnacles attached to
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this flaperon. i want to put up a picture of the barnacles right now. i think we have a close-up shot as well. in looking at these barnacles, do they tell you anything? >> this particular species of barnacle is very widespread through all of the indian ocean, so this particular barnacle would not tell us exactly where the flap was from, but we can age the barnacles, and it would tell us how long the flap has been at sea. a french marine biology has estimated their age as about one year, which would fall within the time parameters we're looking at. >> interesting. remind under the circumstances again wh -- us again what a barnacle is. >> it's a crustacean, not a seashell, distantly related to crabs and shrimp and that sort of thing. >> and they attach -- the location on this flaperon where they've attached, does that say
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anything to you? >> it can tell us a little bit about how much of the flaperon was exposed above the sea's surface or the orientation of the object in the sea. the barnacles only settle when there is water on the object. these are barnacles that live only on objects, they don't live in the deep sea down below at the bottom. however, although we don't know exactly what it can tell us about where it's from, an interesting aspect of these barnacles are the chemical analysis of the shell often reflects the temperatures through which the barnacles and the flap floated, so it could be with analysis of the shell you can tell a little bit about exactly where the flap has been to determine the temperatures -- the temperatures experienced by the animals as they grew. could tell us a little bit about whether or not the flap said on
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a predicted track or took a more meandering route. >> that's fascinating. so once this flaperon gets into the laboratory in toulouse, france, how will they extract the barnacles? >> the barnacles will be removed from the surface and then they're confirmed with a species identification, although we have one based upon just looking at the photograph, and then if chemical analysis is done, that's done in the laboratory as well. there may be other things on the flaperon besides the barnacles. there can be other species which we're simply not seeing in these photographs. those could be analyzed as well and they could provide further evidence of the ocean voyage. >> fascinating. james carlton, many thanks to you. les, i'm sorry to neglect you, but that was fascinating, right? >> it was. >> so those barnacles may tell us a lot about maybe what happened. >> and with the information he gave us, it looks like it was partially submerged at least at
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some point or floated underneath the surface of the ocean to some degree. >> because the surface had to be wet for the chrrustaceans to attach. >> according to his information. >> which is really fascinating. so once that piece of plane gets to the laboratory, what is the first thing investigators will do? >> it's hard to say. but i would imagine they're going to look at the piece as one -- any accident investigation you start with the whole and narrow your focus down. so i would imagine they'll look at the piece, see if it matches what they're say something a flaperon. it's very strong words from boeing. boeing is not a casual company, and when they come out with their pr department saying they have a high degree of confidence, that's more than likely what it is. >> you have been immersed in this for the past couple days. >> sure. >> what does this flaperon tell you? >> well, at this point it tells me the flaperon perhaps -- my gut feeling is it broke off in the water. how it impacted the water, i don't know. we have the hudson river landing
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in 2009 to remind us of how a controlled descent is going to work. we had an engine piece break off, one of the engines came off and a few other assorted pieces. could this have come off in a high speed, high impact? absolutely. and they may be able to determine this when they bring it to toulouse. >> hopefully we'll know shortly. les abend, thank you so much. i appreciate it. i also want to remind you to check out the cnn documentary "vanished" that airs at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. no student's ever done the full hand raise in ap calc. but your stellar notebook gives you the gumption to reach for the sky. that's that new gear feeling. all hp ink, buy one get one 50% off. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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hold the israeli government fully responsible for the brutal assassination of the toddler. the israeli government also condemned the act. ian lee is on the west bank. >> reporter: the molotov cocktail, this firebomb, went through the window lighting up this entire room. this is the room where the family was sleeping at the time of the attack, the family of four. you can see their personal effects everywhere completely scorched. this entire room burned out. there's nothing really much left, but down here you do have the remnants of baby ali. you have the milk bottle he used. there's also milk still left in it. you can see the remains of the beds, of the cribs, also a blanket here. as you mentioned, this price tag attack on the surrounding walls on the outside of the building. you do see hebrew graffiti and one of the graffiti says revenge
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on it. so palestinians here very angry about this attack where they say was from israeli settlers. both the palestinian authority has condemned this calling this an act of terror. now, the israeli government has also condemned this. right now there hasn't been any suspects arrested in connection to this case. >> all right. that was ian lee reporting. thank you so much for joining me today. i'm carol costello. "berman and bolduan" after a break. ♪
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malaysia now confirming the plane debris found on an island belongs to a boeing 777. and the united states saying someone deliberately steered flight 370 off course. but why? an international tug of war
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brewing over the american dentist who killed one of the africa's most treasured lions. zimbabwe demanding the u.s. extradite him. the problem is the dentist is nowhere to be found. >> and the campus officer accused of murder is right now free on bail as new revelations amer emerge about the history of the officers who corroborated his story. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. i'm john berman. breaking news in the hunt for flight 370. new pictures just into cnn. the piece of airplane debris found on reunion island has just been loaded into crates at the airport. you're looking at these pictures we just got right there, treating it very carefully. the wing component is being p p prepped for an 11 hour flight to france where it will be analyzed. once there it could take just a short time that it does in fact come from

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